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== Cleanup 20230606 ==


I have cleaned up this page. For the previous version see:
=== Torus etc. ===
Good day, looking at your edit: https://wiki.freecadweb.org/index.php?title=Part_Torus&oldid=853357
https://wiki.freecad.org/index.php?title=User_talk:Roy_043&oldid=1285531


Has this been changed very recently? With Version: 0.19.23756 I can create a Torus following the way that you removed. -- [[User:Hmk|Hmk]] ([[User talk:Hmk|talk]]) 14:36, 12 February 2021 (UTC)
--[[User:Roy 043|Roy 043]] ([[User talk:Roy 043|talk]]) 14:27, 6 July 2023 (UTC)


== TechDraw Drawing Examples and Draft Snap Dimensions ==
: You can create a torus with the [[Part_Primitives|Part Primitives]] command. That is correct. But you cannot start the [[Part_Torus|Part Torus]] command via the Part Primitives command. So instructing the user that one of the ways to invoke the Part Torus command is to first start the Part Primitives command, does not make sense.
:--[[User:Roy 043|Roy 043]] ([[User talk:Roy 043|talk]]) 21:21, 14 February 2021 (UTC)


Hi Roy,
=== Misc ===


the TechDraw Drawing Examples page was named to match with TechDraw Section Examples which also lists what TechDraw can do (and what not, yet). Was it necessary to move/rename it to TechDraw Examples?
Dear Roy,


The Draft Snap Dimensions tool has to be finished with a click to confirm the point like all real snap tools, too. Why shouldn't this last step not be mentioned?
I do not appreciate that you removed my edit. If we want to succeed as a community we need a healthy ecosystem, from developers to educators. of course, YouTubers can ask for support from their viewers, and they do, but they can also encourage them to support developers. It should be a bidirectional relationship. if YouTubers feel welcomed, if they are treated like family then both will benefit. What you did cause a great deal of pain for a great member of our family and I hope you put the edit back. Thanks for your understanding.


--[[User:FBXL5|FBXL5]] ([[User talk:FBXL5|talk]]) 08:21, 6 July 2023 (UTC)
Best,
Foador


: "TechDraw Drawing Examples" is a strange title. "Drawing" is redundant and also too reminiscent of the obsolete Drawing WB. Maybe then use "TechDraw General Examples"?
: I have answered here: [[User_talk:Foadsf]]


: BTW: Why do you say: "some examples about what TechDraw is already capable to do". It implies that TD is still underdeveloped when that is hardly the case.
Hi Roy,


: Regarding Draft Snap Dimensions: The tool itself does not suggest a point to the user, therefore there is nothing to confirm. So the text would have to be different.
Thanks a lot for the fixes to my edits and for bringing to my attention that I had edited an obsolete page :)


: --[[User:Roy 043|Roy 043]] ([[User talk:Roy 043|talk]]) 14:24, 6 July 2023 (UTC)
For https://wiki.freecadweb.org/index.php?title=Std_Edit&diff=next&oldid=840510, links to files on GitHub using the master branch aren't reliable (files move and code moves with time). Would you be okay with this form instead? [https://github.com/FreeCAD/FreeCAD/blob/master/src/Gui/ViewProvider.h#L423-L427 src/Gui/ViewProvider.h] ([https://github.com/FreeCAD/FreeCAD/blob/135525a8066703059603be1a395986327e635568/src/Gui/ViewProvider.h#L423-L427 archived version])


:: In the end I can live with both alternatives with a light tendency towards General Examples.
Cheers,
[[User:Suzanne.soy|Suzanne Soy]] ([[User talk:Suzanne.soy|talk]]) 22:17, 20 January 2021 (UTC)


:: TD is underdeveloped if we have to define section views in 3d space, have no real auxiliary views, cannot rotate a view without messing with the dimensions, have no view grid starting at a meaningful point and following the view's axes, cannot rotate balloons. Maybe I will find some more. Yes TD has made a leap forward with the extensions, but they also have some potential for improvement.
: Let's avoid the problem and do away with the link altogether.


:: If we do not care about standards, FreeCAD is great, but it wants to be an application for professionals, too and there still lies some way to go towards this goal. This examples page is intended be used as a base of discussion, and to clarify terms that I or other not natives maybe use wrong. It is quite hard to find create simple examples to describe missing features in contrast to existing ones.
: --[[User:Roy 043|Roy 043]] ([[User talk:Roy 043|talk]]) 16:40, 22 January 2021 (UTC)

:: Regarding snapping: I read it as confirm the (new) end point of the current line segment rather than to confirm the (existing) selected point.

::--[[User:FBXL5|FBXL5]] ([[User talk:FBXL5|talk]]) 15:19, 6 July 2023 (UTC)

Thanks for clarifying. I have renamed the example page to [[TechDraw_General_Examples|TechDraw General Examples]]. I have removed the 2 redirects that were automatically created.

I'll look at Draft Snap Dimensions again later.

--[[User:Roy 043|Roy 043]] ([[User talk:Roy 043|talk]]) 08:45, 7 July 2023 (UTC)

: I was quite scared the the page disappeared (again) a few minutes ago... lol

: --[[User:FBXL5|FBXL5]] ([[User talk:FBXL5|talk]]) 08:52, 7 July 2023 (UTC)

== Sketcher Offset ==

Hi Roy, I wonder if the shortcut of Sketcher Offset has changed as the tool tip says '''Offset geometries (Z, O)''' (and also not geometry).

--[[User:FBXL5|FBXL5]] ([[User talk:FBXL5|talk]]) 09:58, 6 December 2023 (UTC)

: I have made a PR to change the menu text and the shortcut ("Z, O" was already in use):
: https://github.com/FreeCAD/FreeCAD/pull/11656
: I should have mentioned this in my Wiki edits, sorry for the confusion.

: --[[User:Roy 043|Roy 043]] ([[User talk:Roy 043|talk]]) 20:49, 6 December 2023 (UTC)

::I see... It is a good idea to mention a forthcoming PR if changes are not yet visible as David69 also spotted the change from geometries to geometry in the GuiCommand section.

::--[[User:FBXL5|FBXL5]] ([[User talk:FBXL5|talk]]) 08:29, 7 December 2023 (UTC)

Latest revision as of 08:30, 7 December 2023

Cleanup 20230606

I have cleaned up this page. For the previous version see: https://wiki.freecad.org/index.php?title=User_talk:Roy_043&oldid=1285531

--Roy 043 (talk) 14:27, 6 July 2023 (UTC)

TechDraw Drawing Examples and Draft Snap Dimensions

Hi Roy,

the TechDraw Drawing Examples page was named to match with TechDraw Section Examples which also lists what TechDraw can do (and what not, yet). Was it necessary to move/rename it to TechDraw Examples?

The Draft Snap Dimensions tool has to be finished with a click to confirm the point like all real snap tools, too. Why shouldn't this last step not be mentioned?

--FBXL5 (talk) 08:21, 6 July 2023 (UTC)

"TechDraw Drawing Examples" is a strange title. "Drawing" is redundant and also too reminiscent of the obsolete Drawing WB. Maybe then use "TechDraw General Examples"?
BTW: Why do you say: "some examples about what TechDraw is already capable to do". It implies that TD is still underdeveloped when that is hardly the case.
Regarding Draft Snap Dimensions: The tool itself does not suggest a point to the user, therefore there is nothing to confirm. So the text would have to be different.
--Roy 043 (talk) 14:24, 6 July 2023 (UTC)
In the end I can live with both alternatives with a light tendency towards General Examples.
TD is underdeveloped if we have to define section views in 3d space, have no real auxiliary views, cannot rotate a view without messing with the dimensions, have no view grid starting at a meaningful point and following the view's axes, cannot rotate balloons. Maybe I will find some more. Yes TD has made a leap forward with the extensions, but they also have some potential for improvement.
If we do not care about standards, FreeCAD is great, but it wants to be an application for professionals, too and there still lies some way to go towards this goal. This examples page is intended be used as a base of discussion, and to clarify terms that I or other not natives maybe use wrong. It is quite hard to find create simple examples to describe missing features in contrast to existing ones.
Regarding snapping: I read it as confirm the (new) end point of the current line segment rather than to confirm the (existing) selected point.
--FBXL5 (talk) 15:19, 6 July 2023 (UTC)

Thanks for clarifying. I have renamed the example page to TechDraw General Examples. I have removed the 2 redirects that were automatically created.

I'll look at Draft Snap Dimensions again later.

--Roy 043 (talk) 08:45, 7 July 2023 (UTC)

I was quite scared the the page disappeared (again) a few minutes ago... lol
--FBXL5 (talk) 08:52, 7 July 2023 (UTC)

Sketcher Offset

Hi Roy, I wonder if the shortcut of Sketcher Offset has changed as the tool tip says Offset geometries (Z, O) (and also not geometry).

--FBXL5 (talk) 09:58, 6 December 2023 (UTC)

I have made a PR to change the menu text and the shortcut ("Z, O" was already in use):
https://github.com/FreeCAD/FreeCAD/pull/11656
I should have mentioned this in my Wiki edits, sorry for the confusion.
--Roy 043 (talk) 20:49, 6 December 2023 (UTC)
I see... It is a good idea to mention a forthcoming PR if changes are not yet visible as David69 also spotted the change from geometries to geometry in the GuiCommand section.
--FBXL5 (talk) 08:29, 7 December 2023 (UTC)